Kym Sheehan Rozelle Perhaps the RTA's successful ''pinkie'' campaign should be modified to target the size of executive pay packets. Debby O'Brien Armidale Ethical voting Howard Packer's assertion that ''there would be quite a few votes in it'' if Verity Firth allowed ethics classes may just be the tipping point she needs (''Parents line up to give ethics lessons'', September 30). But would it be ethical? Pam Connor Mollymook Beach A leader out on his own It is refreshing to see Malcolm Turnbull's attempt to pull the Opposition rabble into line over their disjointed stance on climate change (''Back me or sack me: Turnbull'', October 2). While some members of the Coalition seem intent on ''do nothing on climate change'', other visionary politicians seem determined to use this as an opportunity to whiteant their leader. Turnbull shouldn't worry, issues of greater importance are at hand, specifically the annual ''fading of the curtains'' problem, which will no doubt occupy the minds of the National Party this weekend. Bob Harris Sawtell It seems to me Wilson Tuckey is saying that the leader of the Liberal Party, Malcolm Turnbull, should be doing as Tuckey says that the leader should not be the leader, but a follower. So why isn't Tuckey the leader of the Liberal Party? Frank Alley Ashtonfield ''Forward, charge!" And the solitary figure of Malcolm Turnbull rode into the valley of death as his followers were nowhere to be seen. Vincent Scoppa Leichhardt Overseas Chinese enjoy democracy Ross Cameron is sure the Chinese people are happy with their Government (''The protesters won: no democracy, but a true Great Leap Forward'', October 1). I don't think the Government is quite so confident. Evidence? It banned the public from the National Day celebrations and has spent the past couple of months arresting citizens it thinks may not share Cameron's high opinion of it. He trots out the usual nonsense about Chinese culture not valuing democracy. Strange, then, that Chinese in the West do value freedom and democracy, as they have come to do in Canada Goose Jacka Taiwan and, to the extent they are allowed it, in Singapore and Hong Kong. The students did not win. Have a look at the old fellas taking the salute in Tiananmen they are the ones who ordered the 1989 crackdown. Zhao Ziyang, who tried to stop the massacre, was placed under house arrest and lived the last 16 years of his life "in seclusion". Jack Hoysted Hong Kong Two articles, same story. While the US, funded by Chinese credit, sinks further into the Afghan mire, China's military capacity continues to expand beyond expectations. The big picture is changing so rapidly that by the time the US looks up from its Afghan involvement, any "gains" there will be irrelevant. Margaret Kerr Mona Vale Women neglected Katie Page is in serious denial (''Forgiving fans in a league of their own'', October 2). There is no compassion in her piece for women who have been degraded, attacked and abused by NRL players. While she lauds fans and the players, she has no sympathy for women who have been victimised by the ''what happens on tour stays on tour'' culture. Ms Page has been on the NRL board for many years and bears some responsibility for that shocking culture. If she cannot see there is a problem, she should let someone else have a go. Lisa TaitMcLean Georgetown Leave super alone Shane DellaVedova deserves his jail term, but stripping him of his superannuation is unjust (''Rocket thief may lose his army super'', October 2). The super is deferred, earned salary. It is a right and a working condition, not a privilege to be removed. This also removes the right of a partner to make any claim on superannuation in the event of a divorce. It reminds me of Morris Iemma's political stunt of legislating to deprive Milton Orkopoulos of his parliamentary super. Keith Parsons Newcastle The facts, fallacies and workings of TAFE It is good to see the Herald's coverage of the plight of NSW TAFE generating letters. Having been a counsellor in TAFE for 30 years I think two significant issues are being overlooked: the fallacy that TAFE exists to make money and the disgraceful treatment of its parttime teachers.



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